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Re: Members Travel Topics & Photos Discussion
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2014, 01:47:54 am »
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I will finally take that page out of Alan's book and make myself quite scarce. And what a great relief that will finally be to wash the rot and stink of ALL of DOOMSTEAD DINER off of my very being. BYE ALL I can't say it's been real.

It has been a terrible experience for many of us Karpatok, and quite an education.

Kindly drop in when you can and let us know how you are doing. You will always find the door open here.

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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2014, 05:24:13 am »
Always such a pleasure.

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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2014, 06:52:39 pm »
this is the view from my hotel window in hong kong. yes those are improvised bamboo balconies on the 25th floor no less. i tried to take fotos from the bus yesterday but you cant see anything but a flash reflected in the glass. the container port was biggest i have ever seen. i dont think i can describe the scale of the operation, except to say that out in the harbour giant container ships sit like little vessels in the hundreds.

edit. jpeg downloads not allowed, sorry chaps will need to find a workaround.

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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2014, 07:31:59 pm »
this is the view from my hotel window in hong kong. yes those are improvised bamboo balconies on the 25th floor no less. i tried to take fotos from the bus yesterday but you cant see anything but a flash reflected in the glass. the container port was biggest i have ever seen. i dont think i can describe the scale of the operation, except to say that out in the harbour giant container ships sit like little vessels in the hundreds.

edit. jpeg downloads not allowed, sorry chaps will need to find a workaround.

Sounds interesting Walter. Sorry I don't know how to help with photos not working.

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« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2014, 12:18:35 pm »
Hi Walter, Thinking of you as I came across this photo in the news today.  :D

     

     A woman poses for a photograph in front of a 3D painting at HK 3D Museum in Hong Kong. Tyrone Siu/Reuters

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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2014, 09:08:54 am »
How's it going Walter? Drop in for a second and say hello and let us know you are well and having a grand time in Hong Kong.  ;)

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« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2014, 08:14:03 pm »
Hi GO

I got back on saturday after what were very interesting travels. I still need to figure a workaround for the fotos but I can relate some of my impressions. Anyone under about 30 years can speak english, but not well enough to have an in depth conversation and striking up conversations on trains that are very crowded, so people I spoke to were mostly other foreigners and mostly businessmen. But locals I could chat to were sales clerks and store managers in stores like jewelers where there they had more of the time and space and inclination to allow me to strike up a conversation. Gathering from the locals as well as the foreign business people operating american european companies out of china I gathered that we are led to believe a number of myths that are either outdated or just wrong.

People dont despise the government the way we do in the west. They think the federal/central govt and president is doing a geat job and are patriotic because of the progress they believe in. Their complaints are more about local level crooked county officials. The news story of the policeman who was killed by a mob was not accurate or representing anything that can be generalised. It was not a police proper but an equivalent of what you call TSA I think, but not organised federally but somethng locally. Some squad of thugs who clear out poor people for big business to do development. There are TV ads to try and educate people that they need to move out of old areas so they can be demolished and into the new zones of high rise buildings which are kind of far away.

Minimum wage is about $225 USD a week. Thats the going rate and rising, so what we are led to believe about a dollar a day or so is way out of date. People who think they can not shift to a domestic market away from an export market are wrong. There are Bentlys and BMW's all over the place and at least seven swiss watch stores for every seven-eleven. Shifting to a domestic market economy is seen as part of the solution to the pollution problem. I cant say I can see how that works, since producing the power and the products still causes pollution regardless of who buys it. There are TV ads talking about the plans to reduce pollution by the govt, I dont know how successfully it will work.

I went into china and returning by bus and by high sped jet boat, the place looks large like australia or usa on a map but much of it is mountainous and theres a shortage of flat and farm land. I think this is the real problem because that land is getting taken up with industrial devleopment, and that is all being modernised they say. The apple and nike stereoptype of slave labour is not representative because of already being forced to give better conditions and the workers want to meet and beat targets on their own to get bonusses. Thats what I have been told, and it seems legit since theres certainly a fetish for designer labels whether its in high end malls or street stalls selling cheap copies.

The girl in the foto above with the shark is typical of 99.9% of women there, all slim. Is it a better diet or a shortage of food or both is the question. They are definitely moving to importing more and more food, and how that will work out seems to be the real key to me. Keeping in mind they mostly own the land and the farms in other countries and continents they get the food from unlike us who just import the foods on the open market. Climate change, fresh water scarcity, etc seems to point to competition coming at some point for the food. Then again I look at many other places the same way including our own food supply and I come back to believing in self sufficiency being the only sure way to survive if and when supplies are strained.

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