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Golden Oxen

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Seems OK Surly, I utilized in this reply to you. Will try another test next posting

Testing Quote function.   Appears OK Surly.

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A question unrelated to the thread, GO:

Does your "quote" function work for you as it does for the DD Forum? I find that it does not work for me, and am wondering if it might not be some browser setting on my part. Unless you are experiencing the same thing.

I had the same problem for awhile with my MS desktop but it works now.  I think I still have the problem on my iPad/Safari...but I can open "Quick Reply" to get the quote and that seems to work OK.

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Re: Golden Oxen's Open Forum: How Soon They Forget
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2014, 03:55:32 am »
Nothing troubles me lately as much as major items being forgotten or major revelations being ignored after a few days go by, and the sheeple get back to their ball game or the Hollywood idols they fawn over.

Snowden is forgotten, two senseless wars have been forgotten, Obama's broken promises forgotten, The 2008 crash forgotten.

How easy it for for TPTB to control us and the politicians to lie to us.

 If we get caught, just wait a few days and the sheeple will forget and move on to the next game. Two to three days usually works just fine, a week at most if it is big slip up.  :-[
« Last Edit: April 27, 2014, 03:59:39 am by Golden Oxen »

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Russia and China are becoming closer thanks to Obama and his insane policies behind the NSA that have left America trying to find friends in a dark hour. The sanctions being imposed on Russia have sent China into its camp. The USA is finding it increasingly more difficult to be the bully in the school-yard. No former administration has ever acted with such arrogance and blind stupidity than the Obama Administration. The net result is to empower Russia and to inspire a new dynamic-duo of Russia-China against the USA. China supported Russia, when Western countries launched an anti-Russian campaign. With both of their economies turning down, this is by no means the proper time to impose sanctions. All this policy is doing is re-enforcing Putin and placing him in the position where he must become more aggressive or seem weak in the shadow of Obama.

In keeping with the idea that the West/America plotted the fall of the Soviet Union as a covert plot rather than the economic collapse of Communism, feeds directly into the idea that the majority of people see whatever happens to them as a victim of someone else rather than the consequences of their own stupidity. Putin’s statements that the fall of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of the 20th Century is gaining momentum in Russia.
                                                                                   

There is now talk of Mikhail Gorbachev being put on trial. Gorbachev was the last president of the USSR and the proposition to bring him to trial for the collapse of the Soviet Union is being bantered about. This is part of the propaganda machine to enrage the people to justify the invasion of at least Eastern Europe. Putting Gorbachev on trial will be an indictment of the West and further the conspiracy theory that it was a plot and not economics.

The Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev delivered a well received speech in the Duma in Russia demonstrating the rise in power and determination of the New Russia. He stated regarding trade how the West suppressed Russia. ”For 17 years, we were actually kept in the hallway, where we argued that we deserved the right to enter the world trading community, that we meet its standards. Now we have a full right to demand other WTO member countries should observe the regulations with respect to Russian goods.”

The treatment of Russia by the Obama Administration has been appalling to say the least even before Crimea. The policies that are in place and the thinking is so outdated built around an ego of self-centered aggrandizement, it is hard to see how this cannot lead to any place other than armed conflict. I stated upfront, give the East Ukraine back to Russia on a timetable and allow free elections there that should have been monitored. The people should have decided this issue, not politicians. That should have been the serious solution just as East Germany was given back to the West. Failing to reach such a negotiated settlement allowing for real free elections has led to this confrontation with no escape. Both sides now have their backs against the wall and neither will back down fearing this will be a sign of political weakness.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/26/world-war-iii-on-the-horizon/
 

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Admired blogger James Howard Kunstler, and another of his Brilliant perspectives.     

 

The wonder is that more Americans are not ticked off about the state of our country than whatever is happening ten thousand miles away. For instance, how come the US Department of Justice is not as avid to prosecute the pervasive racketeering in the US economy as the State Department is for provoking unnecessary wars in foreign lands on the other side of the planet, over matters that have little bearing on life here? This racketeering, by the way, amounts to a war against American citizens.

    I’m speaking especially of the US military racket, the banking and finance rackets, the health care racket and the college loan racket, all of which have evolved insidiously and elegantly to swindle the public in order to support a claque of American oligarchs. In other civilized lands, health care and college are considered the highest priority public goods (i.e. responsibilities of government), and national resources are applied to support them under the theory that bankrupting people for an appendectomy or a bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering is not in the public interest. In our land, that would be considered “socialism.” Instead, we “socialize” the costs of supporting Too Big To Fail banks — so their employees can drive Beemers to their Hamptons summer house parties — and a military machine that goes around the world wrecking one country after another to support a parasitical class of contractors, lobbyists, and bought-off politicians in their northern Virginia McMansions.

     Hence, the laughable conceit pinging through the news media lately that some dynastic grifter like Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton will slide into the White House in 2016 as easily as a watermelon seed popped into a shot glass. I don’t think it’s going to work out that way. The US political system needs to be turned upside down and inside out, and I expect that it will be. Either it happens within the bounds of electoral politics, or you’ll see it playing out in the streets and the windswept plains.

     Just a glance around the USA these days ought to nauseate the casual observer. We have an infrastructure for everyday life that is failing in every way imaginable. Are you disturbed by the asteroid belts of vacant strip malls outside your town? Or the empty store fronts along your Main Streets?  What do you suppose these places will be like in ten years when the mirage of shale oil dissolves in a mist of disappointment and political grievance? How are Americans going to feel, do you suppose, when gasoline just isn’t there at a price they can pay, and they are marooned in delaminating strand-board-and-vinyl houses 23 miles away from anything? Does the sheer immersive ugliness of the human imprint on the American landscape not give you the shivers?

      Look at the pathetic and disgusting appearance of our cities, which for the most part present themselves as demolition derby arenas or war zones — except the strongholds of the red-white-and-blue oligarchs: Washington, San Francisco, and especially New York, Financialization Central.

      What happens at the “magic moment” when Facebook stops being a narcissistic virtual playground for “selfies” and becomes a bulletin board for political revolution? Think that can’t happen here? And what if that revolution is a kind that doesn’t appeal to you — say, a revolution of race hatred, or fascist zealotry, or Marxist gangsterism of the type that took Russia hostage for 70 years?

     All this is happening, incidentally, because the supposed best minds in our nation are paying no attention whatsoever to the most important story of our lifetime: the winding down of the techno-industrial global economy. It doesn’t really matter anymore why they don’t get it. Hubris. Greed. Distraction. Denial. All that matters is that they can’t be depended on and when that happens authority loses legitimacy. And when it comes to that, all bets are off.

     The disintegration of Ukraine would be best understood by Americans as a mirror of ourselves and our sclerotic republic, poised to sink into poverty and disorder. Everything we do and say rings hollow now. What used to be called The Establishment has run out of ways to even pretend to save itself. We have no idea what’s next, but it’s not going to be more of what’s been.

http://kunstler.com  >:( :'(

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GO, Joe P,

I have pretty much concluded that the problem must be in my browser. Joe, I am using Safari. If you have any  wisdom to share, light me up[. I have diddled with my preferences but still can't get the quote function to work; but it works fine on DD.

Troubling-- but I hope it's the worst thing that happens to me.

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I use Firefox Surly, Safari is on my I pad mini and I never really did get the hang of it yet.

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GO, Joe P,

I have pretty much concluded that the problem must be in my browser. Joe, I am using Safari. If you have any  wisdom to share, light me up[. I have diddled with my preferences but still can't get the quote function to work; but it works fine on DD.

Troubling-- but I hope it's the worst thing that happens to me.

Pardon me but I could not help but overhear your quandary. If I may, you may wish to go about it as follows:

DO NOT simply click "quote" and wait for a reply box with the quote inside. Rather, click "reply" and wait for an empty reply box.

Having come this far, then scroll down and your box will disappear off the top of your screen. Fear not friend for it can be brought back down.

Scroll down until you see the post you want to quote.

Having rounded on your prey, it is then just a matter of highlighting the desired discourse and only then click "quote".

You will be pleasantly surprised to scroll up and find the quote appearing prepacked in the reply box.


With Compliments, WJ
« Last Edit: April 28, 2014, 06:32:51 pm by Walter Johnson »